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		<title>By: old</title>
		<link>http://anthropos-lab.net/bpc/2007/03/security-territory-population/comment-page-1/#comment-2403</link>
		<dc:creator>old</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig referred me to these comments here after receiving an email from elsewhere about the same comment.  I sent the following message along for Craig to forward to the other inquirer:

I shouldn&#039;t have said such a thing.  It probably reveals an unacceptable remainder of homophobia.  The comment was made with the expectation that it would be read by only a very small circle of people who already know that I have an extraordinarily high regard for Foucault.  As the comment of mine below it reveals, I simply don&#039;t find the reading of Foucault that suggests he embraced liberalism, in any way, persuasive in the least.  In fact, I am persuaded this way in large part because I think the presentation by Miller of the Foucault who &quot;lived dangerously&quot; in the San Francisco  bath house culture simply doesn&#039;t allow such an interpretation.  I agree with Scollier&#039;s comment that Foucault did not seem eager to be a gay intellectual.  I have suggested elsewhere that he may very well have seen gay marriage as unacceptably bourgeois and a concession to a society dominated by malthusian coupling.  But those allowances don&#039;t excuse the comment.  In fact, if anything, they suggest that in semi-private discourse, I am more comfortable in showing the remainder referred to above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig referred me to these comments here after receiving an email from elsewhere about the same comment.  I sent the following message along for Craig to forward to the other inquirer:</p>
<p>I shouldn&#8217;t have said such a thing.  It probably reveals an unacceptable remainder of homophobia.  The comment was made with the expectation that it would be read by only a very small circle of people who already know that I have an extraordinarily high regard for Foucault.  As the comment of mine below it reveals, I simply don&#8217;t find the reading of Foucault that suggests he embraced liberalism, in any way, persuasive in the least.  In fact, I am persuaded this way in large part because I think the presentation by Miller of the Foucault who &#8220;lived dangerously&#8221; in the San Francisco  bath house culture simply doesn&#8217;t allow such an interpretation.  I agree with Scollier&#8217;s comment that Foucault did not seem eager to be a gay intellectual.  I have suggested elsewhere that he may very well have seen gay marriage as unacceptably bourgeois and a concession to a society dominated by malthusian coupling.  But those allowances don&#8217;t excuse the comment.  In fact, if anything, they suggest that in semi-private discourse, I am more comfortable in showing the remainder referred to above.</p>
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		<title>By: scollier</title>
		<link>http://anthropos-lab.net/bpc/2007/03/security-territory-population/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>scollier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a summary of these could be posted if you are willing?

I don&#039;t know from Old, but calling someone a &quot;fist-fucker&quot; -- unless there is some rather elaborate &quot;signifying monkey&quot; thing going on -- feels just a touch homophobic. Idiotic in any case. Foucault, as we know from one of the only good books on him, was not exactly eager to be considered a &quot;gay intellectual.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a summary of these could be posted if you are willing?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know from Old, but calling someone a &#8220;fist-fucker&#8221; &#8212; unless there is some rather elaborate &#8220;signifying monkey&#8221; thing going on &#8212; feels just a touch homophobic. Idiotic in any case. Foucault, as we know from one of the only good books on him, was not exactly eager to be considered a &#8220;gay intellectual.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://anthropos-lab.net/bpc/2007/03/security-territory-population/comment-page-1/#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you mis-characterize Old and his comment - likely not in the best taste, but I don&#039;t think he&#039;s a homophobe. Regarding a potential &quot;break&quot; with the &quot;History of the Present&quot; interpretation of Foucault, see Lorna Weir&#039;s recent book on pregnancy and her article with Brian Singer in the European Journal of Social Theory. A second article of their&#039;s on population and governmentality is likely to appear in the same journal this  year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you mis-characterize Old and his comment &#8211; likely not in the best taste, but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s a homophobe. Regarding a potential &#8220;break&#8221; with the &#8220;History of the Present&#8221; interpretation of Foucault, see Lorna Weir&#8217;s recent book on pregnancy and her article with Brian Singer in the European Journal of Social Theory. A second article of their&#8217;s on population and governmentality is likely to appear in the same journal this  year.</p>
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